I talk a lot about the exceeding versatility of Dr. Bronner’s Castile Soap and Dr. Bronner’s Sal Suds. There are so many overlapping uses. But is there any time in which they aren’t interchangeable? Yes, but just a few.
Castile soap is primarily designed for the body. The blend of oils (coconut, olive, palm, jojoba, and hemp seed) are designed to be the most nourishing to our skin. But wait, there’s more. Because it is such a beautifully simple soap, it also cleans many other things amazingly well, whether it’s your dog, your sinks, or your floors. You can find details of all these uses on this Castile Soap Dilutions Cheat Sheet.
Because Castile soap is a true soap, it reacts with the minerals contained in hard water. (Here’s my test to find out if you have hard water.) The more dissolved minerals there are, the “harder” the water. The reaction of soap with these minerals in the water leaves behind an insoluble film that’s commonly called “soap scum”. This term is a bit of a misnomer, because it’s not actually soap that remains, but a precipitate of minerals.
You’ll only notice this on shiny objects that are left to air dry. They will take on a whitish film. (Read my post on eliminating soap scum.) Also, absorbent fabrics like towels and cloth diapers will become stiff and lose their absorbency. (But laundry in hard water is still doable – Read more here.)
Enter Sal Suds. This is our biodegradable household cleaner developed by my dad. Sal Suds doesn’t react with hard water. It rinses cleanly and leave surfaces sparkling. No more film on the tub or towels! For it’s multitude of uses, see the Sal Suds Dilution Cheat Sheet.
That’s all well and good, but I haven’t answered that initial question of what to use when.
Situations where I exclusively use Castile Soap
- Myself – Head to toe.
- My animals – Any Castile soap scent on my dog. Baby Unscented on my cat.
- Pest Control – Only Castile soap has this ability to eliminate insects.
Situations where I exclusively use Sal Suds:
- Most Laundry – sometimes, as with bedding, I use Castile soap.
Other than these few cases, I reach for whichever is closer at hand.
Now you know what to use, but perhaps you want to know why?
Soap and detergent are both surfactants. The word “surfactant” is a portmanteau of “Surface Active Agent.” If you’ve ever done a belly flop into a pool, then you’ve felt the power of surface tension. Surfactants break through the surface tension of water and make water really soak in.
My brother Mike says: Surfactants make water wetter.
The second magical power of surfactants is that they make oil and water coexist. Which they don’t otherwise like to do. This is why you can’t just rinse oil off your hands. The water runs over the oil like it’s just not there. And it just doesn’t care.
Now brace yourselves – you’re about to learn some Greek!
Surfactants solve the oil/water repulsion because one end of each surfactant molecule is hydrophilic and the other end is hydrophobic.
Hydrophilic literally means “water (hydro) loving (philic).” This end of the surfactant molecule grabs hold of water. On the other side, hydrophobic means “water (hydro) fearing (phobic).” A little exaggerated perhaps, but this end grabs the oil.
But we’re not talking about just one. Surfactant molecules work in groups. In a solution, they float around looking for oil molecules and snag with those hydrophobic tails, totally surrounding each oil molecule so there’s no part of the oil molecule left exposed to water. This little nugget is called a micelle.
The outside of this micelle is now entirely hydrophilic, which means instant attraction to the passing rinse water which carries it all away.
It’s like they’re filling those oil molecules with a whole lotta love and reaching out and connecting them with their former enemy, those water molecules. And once they’re connected, they realize it’s not so bad. They can get along. They can hang out together. I think there’s a larger lesson here.
You still with me?
So they’re both surfactants. Now for some differences.
Soap is close to nature, made by a beautifully efficient one-step reaction of combining oil (coconut, palm, olive, jojoba, and hemp for our Castile) with a strong alkali such as sodium or potassium hydroxide (the first also known as lye). Out of this combo, you get soap, glycerin and water. Bam! No leftovers. No waste. Beautiful.
Detergents are more complex and must be synthesized. They were developed during the World Wars when the oils needed for soap were scarce. They can start with botanical substances (such as coconut oil for our Sal Suds) or with petroleum derivatives. And the uses of detergents is vast and wide.
Tidy as it would be, I can’t sum it all up by saying, “Soap good. Detergent bad.” That would be a gross oversimplification. There are bad soaps (not ours, of course) that are poorly made with bits of unreacted alkali floating around in them ready to saponify your very body. You become walking bar of soap. Ouch!
And there are excellent detergents, such as our Sal Suds, which is super duper tough on grease and completely clean rinsing, yet mild and biodegradable.
So that’s a little bit more about the magic of cleaning and the beauty of chemistry.
I’m cleaning a brick fireplace for painting. The paint company recommends Sugar Soap. Do you have an equivalent? I’m thinking your sugar soap isn’t the same but thought another product might be.
Hi Dani – I’m going to guess that you are in Britain? We learned that Sugar Soap in Britain was coined a while back for Trisodium Phosphate, a cleaning solution often recommended ahead of wall treatments such as painting or wall paper. (In the U.S., we call that TSP.) As you guessed, our Sugar Soap is not this. Unfortunately, our best product for your brick prep is not available in Britain at the moment. It is our Sal Suds Biodegradable Cleaner. (There were some labeling requirements that changed with Brexit which we’re still navigating through.) All that to say, I don’t think I have anything to recommend to you for this purpose that you have access to. If I”m wrong in my guess and you are in the U.S., our Sal Suds would be perfect.
Hi Lisa! I was wondering if the Castille soap and Sal Suds can be used together in laundry? I love the smell my peppermint soap leaves on my clothes, but I also love how the Sal Suds is a better cleaning agent! I would love to use both together, what do you recommend?
Hi Nneka – There is no problematic reaction with using the Castile and Sal Suds together, but cleaning wise, it isn’t going to improve any. If you’re just after the scent, you could get some essential oils and add them to the Sal Suds. Note that our peppermint scent is a blend of Mentha Arvensis and Mentha Piperita. But if you want to keep mixing them, that’s fine, too!
Is rinsing needed after using all purpose cleaning spray?
Hi H- There’s no need to rinse at this dilution. Simply spray and wipe with a damp cloth.
My son received a red corduroy shirt that he had ordered that, unfortunately, had perfume spilled on it some time during shipping. By the time the shirt was delivered the perfume had soaked in and dried. We soaked the shirt in warm water and a cup of baking soda, washed it normally then during the rinse cycle added a cup of vinegar, stopped the machine and let it soak for another hour before finishing the cycle. The perfume smell has eased quite a bit but not enough. Would soaking the shirt in Castile Soap or Sal’s Suds get rid of the smell?
Hi Debbie – I’m sorry for my delayed response here. Yes, I think either Sal Suds or Castile would get rid of the perfume on the shirt. I would use the Sal Suds if you have it as it is has a slight cleaning edge.
Upon looking at your cheat sheet for Sal Suds you mentioned 1/2-1 1/2 teaspoons in a large sink of water. But in my busy life I put as much as possible in the dishwasher to save time. Can you use Sal Suds in the dishwasher instead of store Brand dishwasher soap. If so, what ratio should I use?
Hi Angela – Unfortunately, no, Sal Suds is not recommended for the dishwasher. Dishwasher detergents are designed to be no-suds, and as the name implies Sal Suds is too sudsy.
I’m trying to reduce down to one product for all household uses (dishes, hand soap, laundry, counter sprays, etc.) I was using Sal Suds, which I adore, but I know I can’t use it for hands. Then I tried the Castile soap, but it doesn’t seem to work as well on our dishes. Any recommendations for which product would be best for all of these uses? Thanks for your advice and your fantastic products!!
Hi Christina – While I use Sal Suds for all the housecleaning uses – dishes, floors, laundry, all-purpose sprays – I don’t use for hand soap and other body uses, as you mentioned. This is because it can be drying. The Castile, however, does work well for all of these uses, both house and body. When I do use Castile for dishes, I find that it works best not to use it in a whole sink of water, but rather to get all the dishes wet, but not soaking, and then apply the soap directly to the wet dish brush or cloth. Wash the dishes and set in a sudsy pile, and then rinse all at once. This saves water, too. Let me know your thoughts!
So, what’s your opinion on using Sal Suds for shampoo?
Okay to use?
I’ve been using it for a while and my scalp and hair have never been healthier.
Hi David- Sal Suds is our all-purpose household cleaner and because it can be so drying to skin, we don’t recommend it for body care, but it is not toxic.
Please let me know. I just bought a 16 oz bottle of the baby unscented because I read it is good for shampoo. I purchased it at Bed Bath Beyond. When I poured it in my hand, it was pure liquid, not concentrated. I had to use alot . I would literally run out of my hand. Is that the way it is supposed to be?
Hi Sue- Our Castile Soap is 2-3 times more concentrated than most soaps, but it is still a thinner liquid than conventional shampoos, which may contain ingredients for a thicker consistency. For my long, thick hair, I use a good ½ Tbsp. of Castile Soap. When using a true soap like our Castile, the key is to follow up with an acidic rinse. Conventional shampoos are acidic, but our soap has an alkaline pH which makes our hair kind of tacky/sticky feeling. The acidic rinse smooths everything down. There are two options for an acidic rinse. For my long, thicker hair, I use about 1/2 cup apple cider vinegar (ACV) diluted with another 1/2 cup of water. Or, I dilute a capful of Dr. Bronner’s Organic Citrus Hair Rinse (the orange bottle in the photo above) in 1 cup of water and then pour it over my head and work it through and rinse thoroughly.
Is Sal Suds OK for front loading washers?
Is Sal Suds as good as or better than Charlie’s Laundry soap powder?
Does Sal Suds leave soap residue on clothes?
Charlie’s seems to remove soap residue that other laundry soaps leave behind.
I’ve used your castile soaps many times, but not Sal Suds.
Hi Joseph- I haven’t used Charlie’s laundry detergents, but if you’ve been happy with the Castile Soap for laundry, you’ll like the Sal Suds more. It is exceedingly clean rinsing and doesn’t leave any residues on fabrics. It also doesn’t react with the minerals in hard water, as happens with the Castile Soap. It’s great in all types of washers, including high efficiency (HE) machines. Use 1.5-2 Tbsp. for a regular load. Here’s a link to my article on laundry too, https://www.lisabronner.com/green-laundry-care-with-dr-bronners-video/
I’m 70 with long, dry, frizzy hair. I also have a lot of skin sensitivities and have been using your Baby Mild liquid soap on my face, which has been working very well.
I would like to use it on my hair as well with your Citric Acid Rinse.
Would it be possible to just use a couple of drops in my hand, rubbed together to create suds to wash my hair without drying it out? I would rather not dilute it first to avoid having anything extra cluttering up my shower.
Thank you in advance for your advice.
Hi Mary- It’s great to hear the Unscented Castile is working for you. We replace the essential oils with additional olive oil, which makes it the most gentle and moisturizing of our Castile Soaps. Your method should work just fine. There’s no need to pre-dilute the soap for hair, although do dilute your acidic rinse. For my long, thick hair I use either 1 capful of the Organic Citrus Hair rinse in one cup of water or about 1/2 cup ACV diluted with another 1/2 cup of water. If your hair needs added moisture, give the Organic Hair Cream a try. My hair is wavy and not curly, and it really brings out my natural waves while taming frizzies. It’s like a lotion for hair. I just scrunch in a pump or so when my hair is damp and let it air dry. You may find my blog post about my transition from shampoo to soap helpful. https://www.lisabronner.com/from-shampoo-to-soap-my-story/
you said in the article “Pest Control – Only Castile soap has this ability to eliminate insects.”
the sal suds would actually do a better job on killing insects. What made you write that only castile can do the job?
meant to say “just as good of a job” Because SLS also kills the exoskeleton and can cut through in a different way . Soap may work slighly faster but BOTH products would do the job… So to clarify why did you said ONLY the castile can work?
Hi Anthony- I have found the Castile Soap to be the effective option against insects, though the research as to why this is the case is rather inconclusive. It sounds like you may be familiar with insight into SLS against insects. Can you share that with me? I have also found that the Tea Tree Castile in particular is most effective at erasing the scent trails, making it more difficult for other pests to follow behind.
Have used this product for 9 years. This last order I got did not smell like the pine it should. Called and they did a product quality and told me that the smell of the product was fine. BS did not. Told me they would send replacement. But the person got crappy with me. Will be finding another product to use. They have shipping in the middle of the country. So you don’t know how hot it got or how long it sat in sun. Will never pay Castile or sal soap from them again
Hi Sheri – Thank you for being a long time customer. I am sorry to hear of your experience with your recent order of Sal Suds. If you would like to look into this further, please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I am not certain what is the concern with our shipping to the middle of the country. Our headquarters has been in southern California since my grandfather’s founding of the company, but we have shipped throughout the country for decades.
Hi! If I’m trying to wash microfiber towels after using them to clean the car, which should I use to maintain the fluffiness and keep the microfiber intact and not damage the absobrancy and function of the towels? I have both sal suds and castile soap from Bronners. Thanks a million!
Hi Nat- The Sal Suds is slightly more clean rinsing that Castile Soap, especially in hard water conditions. That’s my go-to for cleaning rags and such. Try adding 1/2 cup baking soda to the wash for extra scrubbing and/or 1 cup vinegar to the rinse cycle for softening. Halve these amounts in HE machines.
Hi can you please Inform me as to why all Uk stockist even Amazon are sold out of Sal suds? I can’t even purchase and import it!
Hi Nik- Unfortunately, due to regulatory requirements we are not actively selling Sal Suds in the UK. At the moment we do not have a timeline for when we will be reintroducing Sal Suds to the market. I’m sorry for any inconvenience this has caused. In the meantime, our Castile Liquid Soap can be used for household cleaning purposes. Check out my dilutions Cheat Sheet for dilutions and recipes: https://www.lisabronner.com/dilutions-cheat-sheet-for-dr-bronners-castile-soap/
Hi Lisa! I made a dishwashing detergent with Sal Suds but it is too liquid for my liking, so I thickened it with guar gum. However, that made the cleaning solution lose all its sudsing power. Did it lose its cleaning power as well, or just the suds? And how can I turn the cleaning solution into a gel without losing the suds? I’m not a good chemist, apparently 🙂
Hi Isabelle- I’m not familiar with the impact of mixing Sal Suds and guar gum. Sorry not to be of more help.
[…] used Seventh Generation, though most brands work the same. For worst-case grease, go straight to Dr. Bronner’s Sal Suds. Either works better than castile soap in hard water […]
Can you advise what dilution & which type of Dr.Bronner’s should I use to clean gardening pots especially those that have been infested/housed with garden pests/bugs.
Hi Anna- I’d use Sal Suds because it doesn’t react with the minerals in hard water the same way Castile Soap does. Hose off the pots first to remove loose debris and soil. Add a small squirt of Sal Suds to a large bucket of water, and in the case of hearty terracotta pot, a brush to clean. For anything painted or decorative, a soft brush or a cloth is a gentler option.
Hi Lisa, I always learn so much from your articles. There is now some research recommending adding a little baby shampoo to sinus rinse as a surfactant (google Baylor medicine sinus rinse baby shampoo). Any thoughts on Castile Soap vs Sal Suds in this instance? Thanks!
Hi Richard- It’s great to hear my blog is a helpful resource to you! I would request that you run this idea by a medical professional. We ourselves do not advise using the soap internally. Our nasal passages are very sensitive to any foreign matter, and soap or detergent can irritate sensitive tissues, especially if it is not fully rinsed out.
Hi Lisa I live in the U.K. and am a bit distressed to discover that Sal Suds has been discontinued here! What is going on?! I need it back in my life!
Hi Holly- I’m sorry to report that Sal Suds is undergoing a label update due to Brexit requirement changes and is unfortunately unavailable in the UK for the next several months. However, we hope to bring Sal Suds back to the UK in the later part of 2022. In the meantime, our Castile Liquid Soap can be used for household cleaning purposes. Check out my dilutions Cheat Sheet for dilutions and recipes: https://www.lisabronner.com/dilutions-cheat-sheet-for-dr-bronners-castile-soap/
I am going to start using the baby castille as a body wash, can essential oils be added for scent? I always use the soaking tub. Will the soap leave the whitish film?
Would I use the sal suds to clean or the castille with baking soda?
And I usually wash the soaking tub right away with baking soda and baby wash. Then spray it with an alcohol or vinegar homemade cleaner.
I just started making my own cleaners, what ingredient can be added to have it be a disinfectant?
Hi Erin- Yes, adding essential oils to the Castile Soap is a fun way to customize your scent with the season, your mood, and so on! If you have hard water, it’s likely a white film will build up in your tub over time. Soap scum is simply a reaction that occurs between a true soap, like Castile, and minerals naturally occurring in hard water. It’s unsightly, but not harmful, and easily cleaned with diluted vinegar or scouring with baking soda. Check out my post all about soap scum here: https://www.lisabronner.com/scum-scum-go-away/
Soaps clean by grabbing onto dirt, germs and grime, and rinsing them off. Here’s my deep dive into how soap works https://www.lisabronner.com/how-soap-works/. Disinfecting should be reserved for times when there is sickness present, or of course in medical facilities. It’s the idea to use the least intensive strategy necessary for the situation and to reserve the more intense measures for circumstances that merit them. This preserves the effectiveness of the intense measures and avoids their potential negative side effects.
Absolutely loved the article!
Was just trying to figure out which soap to get- and I was just thinking about the oil and water dilemma especially with essential oils. Lisa, you gave me alot of knowledge! Thx,
hello, I am new to Dr. Bronners products.
I have a recipe for homemade cream cleanser using Pure Castile Soaps.
I am wondering if I can use Sal Suds instead.
Hi Sunny- Welcome to the Dr. Bronner’s family! If you’re cleanser is for household cleaning, most likely yes. Sal Suds is quite a bit more concentrated than Castile Soap though, so use less. If the cleanser is for skin care, stick with the Castile Soap. While Sal Suds is not harmful on skin, it’s intended to be used as a household cleaner.
Dr. Bronners products are the best! I remember Aunt Gladys used to send us soap for Christmas with a card that said “ your health is your greatest wealth” Its hard to find here in MN, so I’m glad to see it’s available through Grove, so everyone can fall in love with Pure Castile Soaps , even if not carried locally
Hi Carole- Thank you, Aunt Gladys! I love hearing stories like yours. Thank you for sharing!
Hi, would the sals suds cleaner be safe to use on wooden flooring with pets? My dog sleeps on the floors a lot and tends to lick them as well.
Hi Ann- My 2 dogs and 2 cats can attest to the fact that Sal Suds is gentle and exceedingly clean-rinsing when it comes to cleaning around pets. And, customers who own birds and reptiles tell us Sal Suds is a safe and effective cleaner for cages and enclosures. The concern around pets is essential oils. Our products have a small amount of essential oils, just 2%, which are then highly diluted with water in the All-Purpose Spray and mopping solutions.
Should dr. Bronners Castile liquid soap be diluted for showering?
Hi Bonnie- The water in the shower does the diluting for you. Use a small squirt in a wet cloth or hands. Use 2-3 drops for face-washing. You’ll find a little goes a long way!
Is it ok to use unscented sugar soap for hand washing dishes? I have recently developed severe skin sensitivities as a side effect form a medication. Between Castile, Sugar Soap and Sal Suds, Sugar Soap leaves my skin feeling the best, I love it!
Hi Christine- It’s great to hear the Sugar Soap works well for your skin! While I’ve not tried it on dishes, the Sugar Soap cleans in the same way Castile Soap does, so if its working for you – keep on doing what you’re doing! One note here, the Castile Soap is highly concentrated and requires diluting, while the Sugar Soap is diluted with organic grape juice, so there’s no need to further dilute.
Should I use Castile or Sal Suds for cleaning the interior of my refrigerator…shelves, racks, walls?
Hi Mari- Both would work beautifully. I typically turn to Sal Suds for this task though. Castile Soap interacts with the minerals in hard water, which I have, and can leave spots on shiny surfaces and glass.
Would love it if Sal Suds came unscented! We have allergies to pine, but love your unscented line!
Hi Heather- We always appreciate consumer suggestions! I’ll pass your excellent idea along.
I’m allergic as well. I’d love to see something made without pine or spruce. Or if you can point us in a direction for alternatives. Also, an unscented castile soap without fragranc or hemp. I just found out I’m allergic to hemp as well so I have to abandon Dr. Bronner’s altogether! 🙁
Hi Michelle- I’ll add your vote for new Sal Suds scent! The Environmental Working Group (ewg.org) or your local natural grocer would both be great resources for finding a soap made without hemp seed oil.